I just needed cargo pants but don't want "casual". Most cargo pants (even rentals) have thin pockets that won't hold up to screws and hardware for my job. These pants are rugged enough to hold up and are comfortable. YKK zipper is great, elastic is great, seams, pocketsare great. The only thing I would like different is snap closures on cargo pockets which are currently Velcro (items fall out of cargo pockets when driving). Velcro is also on both back pockets (not needed). Velcro has also come "unsewn" on cargo pocket on 1 of the 2 pair I am trying out. Ambidextrous rings on sides hold a substantial ring full of keys (I was concerned about that before trying). These are great pants for very comparable price they just need better closures, maybe snaps on cargo pockets....THANKS GALLS!