I wish I would have listened to the reviews, but decided to try these pants for myself. First off, I didn't see where they were elastic waist band, which I don't like to begin with. I ordered a size bigger than what I normally wear (I ordered a 10),and the butt and thighs are tight, and the waist is big, and my pants slide down all day, no matter how tight I get my belt. Also, they attract lint, dog fur, etc.....and doesn't easily brush off. I'm not impressed with these pants, and will not be ordering them again.